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Rogan and Trump talk aliens and North Korea in wide-ranging interview
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Rogan and Trump talk aliens and North Korea in wide-ranging interview

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Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump recorded an almost three-hour interview with mega-podcaster Joe Rogan Everything from extraterrestrial aliens and life on Mars to election interference and foreign policy are discussed on Friday.

With the presidential election just days away, Trump’s appearance on the “Joe Rogan Experience” shows he’s part of his campaign’s targeting game young, undecided male voters. Rogan’s show became Spotify’s most-watched podcast with 14.5 million followers. More than 80% of Rogan’s listeners are male and 56% are under 35, according to a 2026 survey by YouGov.

Throughout the interview, Trump attempted to sway key demographics with these references: Ultimate Fighting ChampionshipHe talks about his sense of humor and plans to abolish taxes.

Rogan asked Trump several tough questions about his record. “I love the idea of ​​teaming up with Robert Kennedy,” the podcast host told Trump at one point. Rogan had He signaled support for KennedyHe was still running as an independent during ‘s presidential campaign. Kennedy left earlier this year and supported Trump.

Vice President Kamala Harris was in talks to appear on Rogan’s podcast, but a spokesperson for her campaign said that wouldn’t be possible due to scheduling issues.

Rogan told Trump he could still see Harris appearing on the show.

Here’s a breakdown of some of the highlights and key takeaways from Trump’s lengthy conversation with Rogan.

aliens

In an exchange late in the interview, Rogan asked Trump if he had been briefed on extraterrestrial life during his time as president. Trump said he interviewed pilots who said they saw strange things while in the air.

“There is no reason not to think that there is no life on Mars and all these planets,” Trump said. Rogan backtracked slightly, arguing that the United States has had probes and rovers on the surface of Mars for decades. So far, scientists have found no direct evidence of life on the red planet.

When Rogan said, “I don’t think there is life out there,” Trump replied: “Maybe it’s life we ​​don’t know about, but maybe it’s a different type of life.”

Pentagon earlier this year 63-page report published It was concluded that there was no evidence of aliens or extraterrestrial technology on Earth. The report found that there was no reason to believe that the US government was withholding information about aliens.

Kim Jong Un

Trump echoed these concerns:enemy from withinThe country poses a more dangerous threat from foreign governments – this time we’re talking about North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un.

“I got along very well with him,” Trump told Rogan during the interview. Trump was it first president ever Stepping into North Korea.

“I tell people, I think we have a bigger problem with the enemy from within. And when I use that term it drives them crazy. But we have an enemy from within,” Trump said later.

Trump had previously used the phrase “enemy from within”. political rivalsThey include former House speaker Nancy Pelosi and Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., who is running for the Senate. is also included.

Income tax and Tariffs

Rogan and Trump touched on several policy areas during the interview; taxes and environment.

During one part of the interview, Rogan asked Trump about a proposal he had made to eliminate income taxes and replace them with new taxes. tariffs.

Trump responded: “Sure, why not?”

Trump has discussed returning to the pre-1909 era when there was no federal income tax. In his podcast with Rogan, he praised former President William McKinley for signing a law in 1890 that increased the tax rate on foreign goods to roughly 49%.

Some economists credit McKinley’s tariffs to bankrupt the US government A few years later, in 1893, he ran into a budget deficit and depression.

Today, replacing the income tax with a tariff policy could significantly increase the current federal deficit. The federal government just collected Income taxes below $2.18 trillion It will account for approximately 49% of total revenue in 2023. Trump’s tariffs are expected to generate approximately $300 billion in revenue annually; That’s nearly nine times the revenue from income taxes.

selection rejection

At one point in the interview, Rogan repeated Trump’s claim that “a lot of twisted things” happened during the election. 2020 presidential election. He asked Trump: “How do you think you got robbed? Everyone always interrupts you.”

Trump initially said he would “prefer to do this another time” and that he would “bring a lot of different documents.” But when pressed by Rogan about examples of election interference, Trump repeated: debunked claims wrongful actions and fraud by state governments.

Rogan questioned whether Trump planned to present evidence before the conversation turned into a discussion about Hunter Biden, who was convicted in 2003. three counts at a federal gun hearing.

Trump and the podcast host then discussed unfounded concerns about vulnerabilities in mail-in voting and the security of voting machines.

“Let’s talk about potential vulnerabilities to elections and voter fraud. One of these is mail-in ballots. The other is that someone can break into the voting machines,” Rogan said.

The use of voting by mail has been increasing since the 1980s and has also become widespread during the COVID-19 pandemic. Mail voter fraud is rare. All mail-in ballots verified and counted and is linked to an eligible electorate.

Voting machines have also been used for decades. Although election officials say such a feat is within reach, older machines have raised concerns about hacking it would be difficult.

Trump doubles down on criticism of Kelly and Bolton

Trump told Rogan that the “biggest mistake” he made during his presidency was appointing officials he “shouldn’t have chosen” to roles in the White House and his cabinet.

So Trump was talking about John Kelly, his former chief of staff and one-time Secretary of Homeland Security, and John Bolton, Trump’s former National Security Advisor.

Kelly said in an interview with the New York Times that Trump displayed tendencies of a fascist and confirmed reports that Trump spoke positively about Adolf Hitler. Kelly told the Times that Trump “commented more than once, ‘You know, Hitler did some good things, too.'”

Bolton said Trump posed:dangers”And if he is elected president again.

During the interview, Rogan downplayed reports of Trump’s Hitler comments during the interview.

He told Trump: “They constantly labeled you as a terrible threat to democracy and Hitler. During the four years you were president, they kept saying you were going to be a dictator, ignoring the fact that you were not a dictator.”

Trump said he was “the exact opposite of a dictator.”